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Ultimately, we're going to have to come up with a set of procedures, processes, and guidelines for use if this isn't going to devolve into mass chaos.  As I doubt the community that arises around this wiki will be nowhere near the size of the one that grew around Wikipedia, it won't need nearly the complexity, but we will need something. [[User:Kmweber|Kmweber]] 2 August 2005 02:45 (MSD)
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==Adding random page==
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Can we add the "random page" link to the nav bar which seems to be standard in every wiki except this one.  That's one of my favourite features of wikis.  -- [[User:GIR|GIR]] 28 August 2005 22:28 (MSD)
 
Can we add the "random page" link to the nav bar which seems to be standard in every wiki except this one.  That's one of my favourite features of wikis.  -- [[User:GIR|GIR]] 28 August 2005 22:28 (MSD)
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==Where to place vessel development tutorials?==
 
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I could write a lot of tutorials about the funky stuff, like autopilots or animations codes, but my problem is, what is the best location for it. SDK documentation does not look right for me, tools is also wrong. Maybe we could create a section like "DLL tutorials" with a subsection "design pattern for vessels"?
 
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Also i currently have a small little capsule project on my workbench, which is quite nice for explaining some basic things of how to use anim8or for orbiter. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 3 August 2005 14:44 (MSD)
 
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Urwumpe,
 
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created a new site: [[Addon Tutorials]]. This could be the place to put tutorials. Feel free to structurize and organize the site. created also a link to it on the main page. [[http://orbit.m6.net/v2/read.asp?id=25079 This thread]] can be used for discussions too.
 
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==Where are the admins?==
 
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Currently rolling back a defacement takes only 1 minute, but this minute could be used better IMHO. I think it would be better the admin(s) get back on doing their job and at least IP ban Casper - come on, its always the same IP, thats too easy to be true. Alternativly i would recommend appointing some moderators or how it is called in a wiki. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 6 October 2005 09:03 (MSD)
 
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== They're banned ==
 
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Sorry I wasn't paying enough attention :) The two IPs are now banned. [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 6 October 2005 13:08 (MSD)
 
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==OrbiterWiki moved==
 
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OrbiterWiki was unaccessible for about 45 minutes, which I suppose can be called a success given that this wiki is not heavily loaded. The old URL forwards to this wiki now. www.orbiterwiki.com is fully aliased with www.orbiterwiki.org, which may cause some confusion. I'm not sure what to do about this yet. Should I just forward .com to .org? -- [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 02:44, 22 December 2005 (MSK)
 
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Oh, I forgot to mention that MathML is currently not available. We hope to get this set up and running ASAP. -- [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 02:45, 22 December 2005 (MSK)
 
  
  
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[[User:Ozone|Ozone]] 00:18, 26 April 2006 (MSD) Why was the main page reverted?
 
[[User:Ozone|Ozone]] 00:18, 26 April 2006 (MSD) Why was the main page reverted?
  
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I think we should start, paying at least a bit attention to article quality for some favorite articles. Currently, we run well on copying stuff from wikipedia, but i especially miss more photos, drawings or other visual information which we could use. [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 11:48, 26 April 2006 (MSD)
 
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== Math formulas ==
 
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I would appreciate being able to use standard wiki math notation, but this wiki is not quite configured for that. For example, <math>f=ma\!</math>.
 
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* Oh wow, does this really work now :) Note that the texvc executable is built off the v1.5.3 distribution of MediaWiki, so it may be out of date. Let me know if you are aware of some significant differences, I'll then resume my attempts to rebuild the latest texvc source. [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 03:23, 13 July 2006 (MSD)
 
  
 
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* Fixed. The page_random field was reset to 0 for some reason. [[User:RaMan|RaMan]]
 
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== Orbiter-style wiki skin ==
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It would be nice to have a special Orbiter-style skin for this wiki. I don't have the artistic skills to create one, but if anyone feels like making one, I'll certainly add it to the list of selectable skins. If people like it we can even make the new skin the default.
 
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I quite like the current logo (because it's colorful :D) but perhaps it would look better with a shuttle or some other spacecraft overlayed over Earth? Any ideas / sketches / finished designs are welcome. [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 19:29, 10 July 2006 (MSD)
 
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What about placing the ISS or the DG over earth, right into the center of the logo? For the other colors, i like the current lightweight style, but i am open for ideas as long as it does not get too dark. For some categories and templates, we could need some small icons, thats a large construction site currently. [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 11:18, 11 July 2006 (MSD)
 
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I'm more a fan of the traditional layout. It's clean, light, functional and people are instantly used to it. Space themes tend to be dark, unpleasent and hard to read. Logos are OK if done to a professional standard, but most amateur efforts just look tacky IMO. --[[User:BadWolf|BadWolf]] 17:57, 14 July 2006 (MSD)
 
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I've set up the template linking to use {{tl|tl}} as on WP. I have protected the template to avoid vandalism --<font color="#002222">[[User:GW Simulations|'''GW_Simulations''']]</font><sub>''[[User talk:GW_Simulations|Talk]] ''|'' [[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|Contribs]]'' | ''[[Special:Emailuser/GW_Simulations|E-mail]]''</sub> 01:21, 11 July 2006 (MSD)
 
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== MediaWiki upgraded ==
 
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MediaWiki has been upgraded to v1.7.1. In case anyone was affected, sorry about the downtime.
 
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We've modified the Monobook.php a tiny bit - The category links, "catlinks", which used to be at the top are now at the bottom of the page. The links at the top are now called "catlinkstop". The default Monobook.css hides "catlinks" and shows "catlinkstop". Any user-defined CSS will need to be updated to accommodate this. [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 01:52, 13 July 2006 (MSD)
 
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== Capitalisation ==
 
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I think the capitalisation policy needs reviewing, it seems to be confusing people and is not implemented much of the time.
 
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For example, the guidelines say capitalisation should be as found in a dictionary. This is ok for single words, but what for sentences and phrases? A sentence is capitalised at the start. Pronouns also need to be capitalised, but are sometimes not (see [[napkin]]), then we have many articles that simply ignore the guidelines (including articles on the front page -- [[Too quickly asked questions]]).
 
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Would it not make more sense to standardise as capitalising the first letter? It's more natural, it's used by Wikipedia, of which most users will be be familiar, and those without English as a first language, or who haven't been taught basic grammar, will not be confused. The rest of the article name should be capitalised according to the normal rules of English, but most will naturally fall into this (again, see [[Too quickly asked questions]]).
 
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Even [[OrbiterWiki:Capitalization]] is captialised (incorrectly, by the rules of English, incidentally: colons do not signify end of sentence).
 
  
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Additionally the title of the article appears as the first line in the article and consequently '''should'' be capitalised in this context.
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I suggest we protect the Main Page. It's the primary target for defacement, but it's also the first thing a visitor sees when they enter the site. It's not very nice if they are presented with a defaced page. Surely they'll feel that the site is neglected. Any opinions? --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 14:12, 26 July 2006 (MSD)
  
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--[[User:BadWolf|BadWolf]] 18:10, 14 July 2006 (MSD)
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* I don't think its a bad idea, but it makes it of course harder for users for adding new content. So, if we do this and protect it, i would propose improving the layout of the main page to something more appealing and create a set of "portals" where any user can add content, for a special topic. So new pages can still be found, while main page does only get maybe one update per week. What about a "picture of the week" and an "article of the week" on main page? maybe we could motivate people to work more on their addon articles and tutorials. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 14:32, 26 July 2006 (MSD)
  
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== Interwiki links ==
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* Please take a look at [[Main Page/New]]. I'll swap it for the current main page soon; express your opinions now! --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 18:58, 29 July 2006 (MSD)
  
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Interwiki links to Wikipedia now work: use <tt>[[w:Earth|<nowiki>[[w:Earth]]</nowiki>]]</tt> or <tt>[[wikipedia:Earth|<nowiki>[[wikipedia:Earth]]</nowiki>]]</tt>. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 02:53, 18 July 2006 (MSD)
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** i like it, all critism i see is the title, maybe we should replace it with a tiny banner, so it does not look too "empty" on the screen. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 22:16, 29 July 2006 (MSD)

Latest revision as of 09:15, 30 July 2006

Adding random page[edit]

Can we add the "random page" link to the nav bar which seems to be standard in every wiki except this one. That's one of my favourite features of wikis. -- GIR 28 August 2005 22:28 (MSD)


Broken URL on sidebar[edit]

"Orbiter Forum" re-directs to the wrong page. It should go to

http://orbit.m6.net/Forum/default.aspx

and not

http://orbit.m6.net/v2/boardtalk.asp

which is the historical one.

-MatW

Urwumpe has raised this with the sysadmin. --BadWolf 15:54, 20 March 2006 (MSK)

Ozone 00:18, 26 April 2006 (MSD) Why was the main page reverted?


Random page does not work properly[edit]

The current page function seems to have a bug currently - i only can find thge articles CCAFS and the main page. --Urwumpe 01:29, 29 June 2006 (MSD)

  • Fixed. The page_random field was reset to 0 for some reason. RaMan

Protection[edit]

I suggest we protect the Main Page. It's the primary target for defacement, but it's also the first thing a visitor sees when they enter the site. It's not very nice if they are presented with a defaced page. Surely they'll feel that the site is neglected. Any opinions? --RaMan 14:12, 26 July 2006 (MSD)

  • I don't think its a bad idea, but it makes it of course harder for users for adding new content. So, if we do this and protect it, i would propose improving the layout of the main page to something more appealing and create a set of "portals" where any user can add content, for a special topic. So new pages can still be found, while main page does only get maybe one update per week. What about a "picture of the week" and an "article of the week" on main page? maybe we could motivate people to work more on their addon articles and tutorials. --Urwumpe 14:32, 26 July 2006 (MSD)
  • Please take a look at Main Page/New. I'll swap it for the current main page soon; express your opinions now! --RaMan 18:58, 29 July 2006 (MSD)
    • i like it, all critism i see is the title, maybe we should replace it with a tiny banner, so it does not look too "empty" on the screen. --Urwumpe 22:16, 29 July 2006 (MSD)
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