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== New Main Page ==
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Hi!
I've moved the new Main Page here. Urwumpe suggested that the title is too large and occupies too much space. I think I like it more this way than without the small text under it. Besides, the old page had a title almost as large. I'll leave the page unprotected for a while to let non-admins tweak it if you want. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 13:31, 30 July 2006 (MSD)
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* The "Main Page" text is now removed. This saves a lot of space. Hack stolen shamelessly from Wikipedia :) --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 17:46, 30 July 2006 (MSD)
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* I actually wanted to have the very small title text, replaced by a graphical logo, because the box for the title takes the whole width but we actually only use a small part of this area. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 21:11, 30 July 2006 (MSD)
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* I'm not sure we can fill in the space that this will free up with sensible stuff, but if you have an idea, do give it a try, I personally have no objections. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:34, 2 August 2006 (MSD)
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* Nice layout --<font color="#002222">[[User:GW Simulations|'''GW_Simulations''']]</font><sub>''[[User talk:GW_Simulations|Talk]] ''|'' [[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|Contribs]]'' | ''[[Special:Emailuser/GW_Simulations|E-mail]]''</sub> 17:05, 13 August 2006 (MSD)
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== Featured articles? ==
 
 
 
With only 54 addons and zero tutorials added, won't these links simply be poor?
 
 
 
The proportion of qualifying articles is unlikely to be high, so we could end up with the DGIII as the featured addon for half the year.
 
 
 
I submit this wiki is not yet ready for this.--[[User:BadWolf|BadWolf]]
 
 
 
: You're being unfair to tutorial writers - we do have a few. I don't see any harm in having DGIII as the featured addon for half a year, I still think it's better than the old dull Main Page. On the other hand, yes the links will not be as great as Wikipedia's Featured Articles, but that's the best we can offer at the moment, so why not? Do you think it's detrimental to OrbiterWiki's "image"? --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:32, 2 August 2006 (MSD)
 
 
 
:: Yes, to be honest. I think it makes the site look 1) devoid of content, and 2) a DGIII fan-site. To a certain extent the former is true, but why highlight it? Is that not, after all, the reason the total articles statistic was removed? I don't thing highlighting a lack of articles encourages participation. Also, if a particular author adds a precis for all his works, this will effectively be a showcase of his designs unless anyone else follows suit. Presents the wrong image IMO. --[[User:BadWolf|BadWolf]] 14:54, 2 August 2006 (MSD)
 
 
 
::: Since there are currently only two opinions expressed on this, shall we wait for some more opinions before removing them altogether? I'd prefer an OrbiterWiki ''ultimately'' with Featured Addon / Tutorial, which means adding them at some point. You are right that would be a bad idea if this deters users at the moment, but I'm not convinced that it does. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 21:56, 2 August 2006 (MSD)
 
 
 
::: The assertion that "highlighting a lack of articles does not encourage participation" is something I would take issue with. I don't assert the opposite either, though. I believe there are both types of people. Those who want to be able think of themselves as part of something big, feel encouraged when there is a lot to do. People who like to polish things up and bring existing things further towards perfection, feel encouraged when a lot is already there. &mdash; Thus, given the choice between the two, I would opt for the more honest one. Don't pretend to be bigger than you are. That includes withholding clues selectively in order to create that impression. It would be intentional deception. &mdash; [[User:Timwi|Timwi]] 14:20, 3 August 2006 (MSD)
 
 
 
:::: To clarify this: What I meant is: If you think the site ''is'' devoid of content, then you shouldn't be afraid of showing it. If you think it's making it look devoid of content ''when you think it isn't'', then maybe you should remove it. &mdash; [[User:Timwi|Timwi]] 15:01, 3 August 2006 (MSD)
 
  
 
== Featured addon vs Random addon ==
 
== Featured addon vs Random addon ==
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:::I see. I just thought that it would make more sense to link the titles. It's not a problem as it is though. --<font color="#002222">[[User:GW Simulations|'''GW_Simulations''']]</font><sub>''[[User talk:GW_Simulations|Talk]] ''|'' [[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|Contribs]]'' | ''[[Special:Emailuser/GW_Simulations|E-mail]]''</sub> 13:00, 25 August 2006 (MSD)
 
:::I see. I just thought that it would make more sense to link the titles. It's not a problem as it is though. --<font color="#002222">[[User:GW Simulations|'''GW_Simulations''']]</font><sub>''[[User talk:GW_Simulations|Talk]] ''|'' [[Special:Contributions/GW_Simulations|Contribs]]'' | ''[[Special:Emailuser/GW_Simulations|E-mail]]''</sub> 13:00, 25 August 2006 (MSD)
 
== Fanfiction Wiki ==
 
 
Hello, everyone! I'm not sure if this should go here, but I've created a fanifiction wiki for Orbiter. You can share the stories you've come up with in your head involving Orbiter for other fans to see. [http://orbiterfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Orbiter_Sim_Fanfiction_Wiki Here's the link]. -- [[User:Spyder]]
 

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