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Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the [[Talk:Main Page]] related to the main page).  
 
Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the [[Talk:Main Page]] related to the main page).  
  
View archived discussions for [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|2005-2007]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2008-2010|2008-2010]].
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View archived discussions for [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|2005-2007]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2008-2010|2008-2010]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2011-2013|2011-2013]].
  
 
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== Server move and stuff ==
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== Recent updates ==
  
* OrbiterWiki has moved servers. Please report any and all issues you observe, preferably by email.
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Hi! OrbiterWiki is on a new server again, and should be a bit faster now. It's also running the latest software now. Among notable improvements is improved support for high-DPI screens (or zooms above 100% on any screen). In particular, thumbnails will now be sharp as long as the source image is large enough, and MediaWiki Math equations are rendered nicely for such devices.
* I am planning to upgrade to the most recent MediaWiki version shortly. Will notify when that's done.
 
* I'd like to try out the new default MediaWiki skin, which is the skin Wikipedia uses now. Any objections should be expressed here.
 
* I'm still hoping to switch case-insensitivity for titles back on. One day...
 
--[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
: Updated to MediaWiki v1.16.2; a couple of extensions got upgraded too. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 03:54, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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I've modified the main page slightly; if anyone wishes to trim down the list of links, suggestions are welcome.
: Enabled Vector skin. [[Media:SkinOld.png|Old skin]] vs [[Media:SkinNew.png|New skin]]. Hope you like! --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 18:00, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
== Loose gun policy for bans from a special subnet ==
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Finally, I'm thinking about switching the default font for the entire site; if done, the site will look like this: [http://i.imgur.com/YY8bii9.png low DPI] [http://i.imgur.com/DDVtRS3.png high DPI]. Speak up now if you have objections!
  
I just noticed some more similarities among the recent spambot activity here: Ten spambot accounts with two name patterns since December came from 118.101.0.0/16, one half of the Internet provider "TELEKOM MALAYSIA BERHAD" (There is no spam from the other /16 of this provider). I suspect that we have a single source behind varying IP addresses there. Since this still means a 640/650 chance that somebody is not a spammer from this network, I would propose the following guideline for next 3 months: All new user accounts that are registered from this network with the pattern
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--[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 17:52, 20 October 2014 (IST)
  
<Letter> + <Random First Name> + <Random Common Family Name> + <Letter>
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== Fighting the spam ==
  
should be banned instantly and for infinite time. IP-Bans should be avoided, since a /16 network of DHCP addresses seems like a poor target for IP-bans. Better target the business model and prevent search engine optimization. I don't see any reason to use this user name pattern here anyway. Another pattern had been the "-Steamer" type, but I don't think this alone is a good way to identify a spammer. If it comes from the same subnet though, it would be with very high certainty a spammer. We have no legal edits from the whole /16 subnet (Booo!).
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Can we enable the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] extension of Mediawiki? I am overwhelmed with the amount of spam we get and if this is properly configured, it might reduce this a lot. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] ([[User talk:Urwumpe|talk]]) 10:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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: It's done! --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  
[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 18:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Maintenance ==
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Last year we moved to a new server and upgraded MediaWiki, and a bunch of extensions got disabled in the process, and the move was generally left unfinished.
  
PS: Yes, that means that new users should better not use this name pattern, if they would like to prevent getting under general suspicion here. It is not nice, but since 2 hours of reaction time is enough to infect a few thousand PCs with malware, a fair price IMHO. "JohnSmith" would still be legal. "GJohnSmithj" would be dubious.
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It is finally finished, I've done some much needed maintenance, everything is looking much happier now!
  
: I suppose this sounds reasonable. No problem with this. Good effort noticing this! [[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 13:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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* Burninated all of the spam. If anything's gone that shouldn't be, let me know, I have backups.
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* Fixed all of the anti-spam extensions that were disabled during 1.34 upgrade. We now have: AbuseFilter, SpamBlacklist/TitleBlacklist, hcaptcha for signups, Nuke, CheckUser.
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* Fixed the caching settings; everything is faster.
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* Fixed email
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* Fixed rendering of SVG previews
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* Fixed rendering of MathML
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* Installed the Citizen skin, though it's less amazing than I hoped - check it out in your user preferences. It has a dark mode.
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--[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  
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::I can't log-in anymore, there seem to be some problems with the CSRF tokens. -- Urwumpe
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::: Could you try again? I have seen it a few times but never consistently. I think it may only be an issue the first time. If it's still not working please try clearing your cookies? After that, if it ever returns please let me know. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 13:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
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::::Same problem, despite erasing all cookies and restarting the browser session, in case there is a bad CSRF token hanging around. Happens also when using different browsers. Tried Edge, Chrome and Firefox now. It complains about the CSRF protection in a red box, maybe that is a hint. --Urwumpe
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::I've tweaked the settings again. It was weird: worked for a day before breaking; any time I touch the settings, it starts working again - and then breaks again later. User sessions are now stored in the DB instead of the PHP cache so hopefully this is now fixed for good? --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 17:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  
==Increase Autoblock time==
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It worked, I’m in. So far so good. RaMan and Urwumpe, thanks for all the work you’ve done to get this fixed. Hopefully, it stays.[[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 20:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  
I just noticed that the automatic IP block when blocking a registered user and his IP is just 24 hours, which explains why it was so ineffective against spambots in the past. I would suggest increasing this timespan to a week. That is still pretty short for our cases, and should also work against retries from dedicated hosts. [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 17:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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I am back again as well, looks fine now :) [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] ([[User talk:Urwumpe|talk]]) 09:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  
: OK, I think I've changed it now - let me know if this doesn't seem to have effect. By the way, do you want to receive an email every time someone edits anything at all? That's a lot of emails, but nothing a filter rule can't fix :) --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 22:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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== More spam pages ==
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Next time one of you guys happen to stop in, there are a number of spam pages I added spam categories to, if you could take a look at.
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And the one titled [[10 Best NFT Games To Play In 2022 - Tezro Blog]], I added the categories and another undid that, so I reinstated it. We'll see how long that lasts. Thanks. [[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 04:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
  
:: The RSS feed for Recent Changes does the job well for me. :D [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 23:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, another question. If I browse this wiki as a guest, not logged in, and follow this to [[Special:Categories]], and scroll down to List Pages, it says there are 670 or so pages, but, if I click on the link and go to the page <nowiki>Category:List pages<nowiki>, there is only Dwarf planets listed. But, if I log in as my user, I can see all the pages. Any idea why?[[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 02:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:48, 2 May 2023

Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the Talk:Main Page related to the main page).

View archived discussions for 2005-2007, 2008-2010, 2011-2013.

Add a new thread

Recent updates[edit]

Hi! OrbiterWiki is on a new server again, and should be a bit faster now. It's also running the latest software now. Among notable improvements is improved support for high-DPI screens (or zooms above 100% on any screen). In particular, thumbnails will now be sharp as long as the source image is large enough, and MediaWiki Math equations are rendered nicely for such devices.

I've modified the main page slightly; if anyone wishes to trim down the list of links, suggestions are welcome.

Finally, I'm thinking about switching the default font for the entire site; if done, the site will look like this: low DPI high DPI. Speak up now if you have objections!

--RaMan (talk) 17:52, 20 October 2014 (IST)

Fighting the spam[edit]

Can we enable the ConfirmEdit extension of Mediawiki? I am overwhelmed with the amount of spam we get and if this is properly configured, it might reduce this a lot. --Urwumpe (talk) 10:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

It's done! --RaMan (talk) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Maintenance[edit]

Last year we moved to a new server and upgraded MediaWiki, and a bunch of extensions got disabled in the process, and the move was generally left unfinished.

It is finally finished, I've done some much needed maintenance, everything is looking much happier now!

  • Burninated all of the spam. If anything's gone that shouldn't be, let me know, I have backups.
  • Fixed all of the anti-spam extensions that were disabled during 1.34 upgrade. We now have: AbuseFilter, SpamBlacklist/TitleBlacklist, hcaptcha for signups, Nuke, CheckUser.
  • Fixed the caching settings; everything is faster.
  • Fixed email
  • Fixed rendering of SVG previews
  • Fixed rendering of MathML
  • Installed the Citizen skin, though it's less amazing than I hoped - check it out in your user preferences. It has a dark mode.

--RaMan (talk) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I can't log-in anymore, there seem to be some problems with the CSRF tokens. -- Urwumpe
Could you try again? I have seen it a few times but never consistently. I think it may only be an issue the first time. If it's still not working please try clearing your cookies? After that, if it ever returns please let me know. --RaMan (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Same problem, despite erasing all cookies and restarting the browser session, in case there is a bad CSRF token hanging around. Happens also when using different browsers. Tried Edge, Chrome and Firefox now. It complains about the CSRF protection in a red box, maybe that is a hint. --Urwumpe
I've tweaked the settings again. It was weird: worked for a day before breaking; any time I touch the settings, it starts working again - and then breaks again later. User sessions are now stored in the DB instead of the PHP cache so hopefully this is now fixed for good? --RaMan (talk) 17:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

It worked, I’m in. So far so good. RaMan and Urwumpe, thanks for all the work you’ve done to get this fixed. Hopefully, it stays.Arvil (talk) 20:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I am back again as well, looks fine now :) Urwumpe (talk) 09:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

More spam pages[edit]

Next time one of you guys happen to stop in, there are a number of spam pages I added spam categories to, if you could take a look at. And the one titled 10 Best NFT Games To Play In 2022 - Tezro Blog, I added the categories and another undid that, so I reinstated it. We'll see how long that lasts. Thanks. Arvil (talk) 04:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey, another question. If I browse this wiki as a guest, not logged in, and follow this to Special:Categories, and scroll down to List Pages, it says there are 670 or so pages, but, if I click on the link and go to the page <nowiki>Category:List pages<nowiki>, there is only Dwarf planets listed. But, if I log in as my user, I can see all the pages. Any idea why?Arvil (talk) 02:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)