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Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the [[Talk:Main Page]] related to the main page).  
 
Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the [[Talk:Main Page]] related to the main page).  
  
Archived discussions can be found at [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|Village pump/Archive 2005-2007]].
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View archived discussions for [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|2005-2007]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2008-2010|2008-2010]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2011-2013|2011-2013]].
  
 
<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:OrbiterWiki:Village pump|action=edit&section=new}} Add a new thread]</span>
 
<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:OrbiterWiki:Village pump|action=edit&section=new}} Add a new thread]</span>
  
== Suggestions ==
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== Recent updates ==
  
I've got a couple of suggestions regarding this wiki:
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Hi! OrbiterWiki is on a new server again, and should be a bit faster now. It's also running the latest software now. Among notable improvements is improved support for high-DPI screens (or zooms above 100% on any screen). In particular, thumbnails will now be sharp as long as the source image is large enough, and MediaWiki Math equations are rendered nicely for such devices.
# <span style="color:red">(done)</span> Archive all the stuff we have on Village pump
 
# <span style="color:red">(done)</span> Change the random addon voting: instead of casting votes, just list each one exactly once. Otherwise newly added addons are shown less often, and that's not very fair.
 
# Write the words OrbiterWiki across the logo (I can upload some of my attempts)
 
# Change the wiki back to case-insensitive. The development to make it _fully_ case insensitive never materialised obviously, so rather than sticking with the (as I see it) inconvenient _fully_ case sensitive we would be better off using the standard case sensitivity mode (same as Wikipedia)
 
  
I'll do all of these things if no-one complains :) --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 17:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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I've modified the main page slightly; if anyone wishes to trim down the list of links, suggestions are welcome.
  
:Can you also check if the display of categories is still active? I just tested it and noticed that no article shows the category - though it should. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 08:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
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Finally, I'm thinking about switching the default font for the entire site; if done, the site will look like this: [http://i.imgur.com/YY8bii9.png low DPI] [http://i.imgur.com/DDVtRS3.png high DPI]. Speak up now if you have objections!
:: Fixed. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 23:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 
  
== Database error when banning registered user ==
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--[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 17:52, 20 October 2014 (IST)
  
Database error when banning users:
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== Fighting the spam ==
  
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Can we enable the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] extension of Mediawiki? I am overwhelmed with the amount of spam we get and if this is properly configured, it might reduce this a lot. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] ([[User talk:Urwumpe|talk]]) 10:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
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: It's done! --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  
    (SQL query hidden)
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== Maintenance ==
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Last year we moved to a new server and upgraded MediaWiki, and a bunch of extensions got disabled in the process, and the move was generally left unfinished.
  
from within function "Parser::replaceLinkHolders". MySQL returned error "1271: Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' (localhost)".
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It is finally finished, I've done some much needed maintenance, everything is looking much happier now!
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--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 01:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
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* Burninated all of the spam. If anything's gone that shouldn't be, let me know, I have backups.
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* Fixed all of the anti-spam extensions that were disabled during 1.34 upgrade. We now have: AbuseFilter, SpamBlacklist/TitleBlacklist, hcaptcha for signups, Nuke, CheckUser.
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* Fixed the caching settings; everything is faster.
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* Fixed email
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* Fixed rendering of SVG previews
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* Fixed rendering of MathML
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* Installed the Citizen skin, though it's less amazing than I hoped - check it out in your user preferences. It has a dark mode.
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--[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  
:Will check this out asap. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 21:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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::I can't log-in anymore, there seem to be some problems with the CSRF tokens. -- Urwumpe
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::: Could you try again? I have seen it a few times but never consistently. I think it may only be an issue the first time. If it's still not working please try clearing your cookies? After that, if it ever returns please let me know. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 13:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
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::::Same problem, despite erasing all cookies and restarting the browser session, in case there is a bad CSRF token hanging around. Happens also when using different browsers. Tried Edge, Chrome and Firefox now. It complains about the CSRF protection in a red box, maybe that is a hint. --Urwumpe
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::I've tweaked the settings again. It was weird: worked for a day before breaking; any time I touch the settings, it starts working again - and then breaks again later. User sessions are now stored in the DB instead of the PHP cache so hopefully this is now fixed for good? --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 17:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  
::Hmm it works for me. Might have been a temporary glitch. Post back if it happens again. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 22:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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It worked, I’m in. So far so good. RaMan and Urwumpe, thanks for all the work you’ve done to get this fixed. Hopefully, it stays.[[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 20:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  
:::I have the same error report now, when trying to access the article [[Ganymede]]. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 10:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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I am back again as well, looks fine now :) [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] ([[User talk:Urwumpe|talk]]) 09:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  
::::Confirmed, will be fixed soon. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:38, 12 April 2008 (BST)
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== More spam pages ==
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Next time one of you guys happen to stop in, there are a number of spam pages I added spam categories to, if you could take a look at.
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And the one titled [[10 Best NFT Games To Play In 2022 - Tezro Blog]], I added the categories and another undid that, so I reinstated it. We'll see how long that lasts. Thanks. [[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 04:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
  
== Bot users ==
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Hey, another question. If I browse this wiki as a guest, not logged in, and follow this to [[Special:Categories]], and scroll down to List Pages, it says there are 670 or so pages, but, if I click on the link and go to the page <nowiki>Category:List pages<nowiki>, there is only Dwarf planets listed. But, if I log in as my user, I can see all the pages. Any idea why?[[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 02:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 
 
We have a large number of bot users around from looking into the user list, is there a way to remove them from the user list? I can only ban those directly, who are active, which means we have a large number of sleeping bot accounts in our wiki. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 12:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
: I could purge all users having 0 edits easily. With a bit of thought and SQL magic I might be able to purge all users who have all their edits marked as vandalism - not sure how hard this would be though. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:40, 12 April 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
== The latest vandalism and sock puppetry ==
 
 
 
After a short study of the matter on Wikipedia, I have two questions and I want really good answers:
 
 
 
What has [[User:Gerald Gonzales]]/[[User:Gerald Gonzalez]]/[[User:UrwumpeSHIT]]/[[User:FUCK YOU URWUMPE]], to do with [[User:Ouch]]/Unknownquinones and [[User:CWii]]?
 
 
 
And can I have CheckUser[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser] capability installed?
 
:Will do. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 13:03, 13 July 2008 (BST)
 
:: Can you also have a look if the automatic IP-Ban feature is working properly, the log shows some strange messages:
 
 
 
11:05, 17 July 2008, Urwumpe (Talk | contribs | block) blocked #2058 (expires 11:05, 18 July 2008, account creation blocked) (Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "URWUMPE WAR". The reason given for URWUMPE WAR's block is: "Abusing multiple accounts") (unblock)
 
 
 
--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 12:52, 17 July 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
Why I have this question? Follow these links:
 
#Start here:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Gerald_Gonzalez]
 
#Go there:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gerald_Gonzalez]
 
#Read the last entry and go there:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Unknownquinones]
 
#And finally locate:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CWii]
 
 
 
I want really good answers.
 
 
 
As long as this case is still open, I suppose not extending the user rights of anybody.
 
 
 
--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 10:08, 21 June 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
:Read [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Unknownquinones&oldid=219248563#Tex this] as to who unknownquinones is. I would say Cwii just got 'Gerald' mad at him, and that Cwii, knowing that Gerald had been here, came and reverted his edits here as well. That said, I don't know for sure, I can find out more later today. [[User:To be|To be]] 20:07, 21 June 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
::Thank you, I will remember this one. What ever this whole mess is about, OrbiterWiki is not going to be a battlefield for brain-dead teenagers. Looks like the measures by DanSteph and Tex had been more visionary than mine here.--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 21:09, 21 June 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
:::I am 90% sure his IP is (or at least was) 121.54.108.42. [[User:To be|To be]] 19:11, 23 June 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
::::I am 100% sure banning a single wireless broadband Internet provider IP will be ''very'' effective. The full network is 121.54.0.0/15. Without statistical knowledge of the access point(s) used, this will not improve the situation. I work on it. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 19:51, 23 June 2008 (BST)
 
 
 
::::Got the confirmation on the address I needed. Lets hope the explicit IP ban works. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 21:05, 23 June 2008 (BST)
 
:::::I wouldn't have told you the IP if I wasn't confident it was static. [[User:To be|To be]] 23:20, 23 June 2008 (BST)
 

Latest revision as of 02:48, 2 May 2023

Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the Talk:Main Page related to the main page).

View archived discussions for 2005-2007, 2008-2010, 2011-2013.

Add a new thread

Recent updates[edit]

Hi! OrbiterWiki is on a new server again, and should be a bit faster now. It's also running the latest software now. Among notable improvements is improved support for high-DPI screens (or zooms above 100% on any screen). In particular, thumbnails will now be sharp as long as the source image is large enough, and MediaWiki Math equations are rendered nicely for such devices.

I've modified the main page slightly; if anyone wishes to trim down the list of links, suggestions are welcome.

Finally, I'm thinking about switching the default font for the entire site; if done, the site will look like this: low DPI high DPI. Speak up now if you have objections!

--RaMan (talk) 17:52, 20 October 2014 (IST)

Fighting the spam[edit]

Can we enable the ConfirmEdit extension of Mediawiki? I am overwhelmed with the amount of spam we get and if this is properly configured, it might reduce this a lot. --Urwumpe (talk) 10:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

It's done! --RaMan (talk) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Maintenance[edit]

Last year we moved to a new server and upgraded MediaWiki, and a bunch of extensions got disabled in the process, and the move was generally left unfinished.

It is finally finished, I've done some much needed maintenance, everything is looking much happier now!

  • Burninated all of the spam. If anything's gone that shouldn't be, let me know, I have backups.
  • Fixed all of the anti-spam extensions that were disabled during 1.34 upgrade. We now have: AbuseFilter, SpamBlacklist/TitleBlacklist, hcaptcha for signups, Nuke, CheckUser.
  • Fixed the caching settings; everything is faster.
  • Fixed email
  • Fixed rendering of SVG previews
  • Fixed rendering of MathML
  • Installed the Citizen skin, though it's less amazing than I hoped - check it out in your user preferences. It has a dark mode.

--RaMan (talk) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I can't log-in anymore, there seem to be some problems with the CSRF tokens. -- Urwumpe
Could you try again? I have seen it a few times but never consistently. I think it may only be an issue the first time. If it's still not working please try clearing your cookies? After that, if it ever returns please let me know. --RaMan (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Same problem, despite erasing all cookies and restarting the browser session, in case there is a bad CSRF token hanging around. Happens also when using different browsers. Tried Edge, Chrome and Firefox now. It complains about the CSRF protection in a red box, maybe that is a hint. --Urwumpe
I've tweaked the settings again. It was weird: worked for a day before breaking; any time I touch the settings, it starts working again - and then breaks again later. User sessions are now stored in the DB instead of the PHP cache so hopefully this is now fixed for good? --RaMan (talk) 17:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

It worked, I’m in. So far so good. RaMan and Urwumpe, thanks for all the work you’ve done to get this fixed. Hopefully, it stays.Arvil (talk) 20:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I am back again as well, looks fine now :) Urwumpe (talk) 09:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

More spam pages[edit]

Next time one of you guys happen to stop in, there are a number of spam pages I added spam categories to, if you could take a look at. And the one titled 10 Best NFT Games To Play In 2022 - Tezro Blog, I added the categories and another undid that, so I reinstated it. We'll see how long that lasts. Thanks. Arvil (talk) 04:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey, another question. If I browse this wiki as a guest, not logged in, and follow this to Special:Categories, and scroll down to List Pages, it says there are 670 or so pages, but, if I click on the link and go to the page <nowiki>Category:List pages<nowiki>, there is only Dwarf planets listed. But, if I log in as my user, I can see all the pages. Any idea why?Arvil (talk) 02:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)